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romney did -- governor romney was terrific last night. he did all the things he has to do to get back in this race, and i am also mystified at the president's strategy. you know, chris, i'm a good sports fan. in fact, i even do sports tv and i write -- >> i know you do. >> and there's a great sports analogy. when you play the perfect defense when you have a lead, when you try to sit on the ball in basketball when you have got a lead, when you play conservative, what often happens is you lose the lead. and i can't for the life of me believe that that's what they did, but that's the only explanation. they told the president, don't be confrontational. they told the president, be above it all, act presidential. but the one thing that gets me when i was running for re-election as mayor and when i was running for re-election as governor and even d.a., i had a passion for what we'd accomplished. i had a passion to explain where we didn't ak plir something, why we didn't, what the road blocks were, and he could have done that without being aggres
romney did -- governor romney was terrific last night. he did all the things he has to do to get back in this race, and i am also mystified at the president's strategy. you know, chris, i'm a good sports fan. in fact, i even do sports tv and i write -- >> i know you do. >> and there's a great sports analogy. when you play the perfect defense when you have a lead, when you try to sit on the ball in basketball when you have got a lead, when you play conservative, what often happens is...
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we didn't hear anything about the case for governor romney. we didn't hear about president obama saying you didn't build it or something like that. this was a more elevated discussion. we don't see a lot of things on ads tonight. >> right. i think that is good for the american people because it's a substantive discussion about issues and i thought that again, that governor romney came across with great command and energy. and that i'm certain next time he'll be better prepared. and there is a discussion about what's happening in latest attack ad. it's about the issues and i thought that it was for that reason a good debate. that was very impressed by and pleased with the governor's performance tonight. i think it gave him an opportunity he hasn't had before with people who are undecided. they had to have walked away tonight impressed by what they heard and saw. >> greta: i thought one of the questions governor romney handled well was the bipartisan question. we had a discussion about the fact there is no budget. we can't get a budget here beca
we didn't hear anything about the case for governor romney. we didn't hear about president obama saying you didn't build it or something like that. this was a more elevated discussion. we don't see a lot of things on ads tonight. >> right. i think that is good for the american people because it's a substantive discussion about issues and i thought that again, that governor romney came across with great command and energy. and that i'm certain next time he'll be better prepared. and there...
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governor romney says no to any further regulation of gun shows. >> there's no particular change in law whothat's going to keep people who are going to do harm to do harm. >> we should do anything and everything to keep criminals from purchasing weapons. >> reporter: so obama says he wants tougher gun laws, little was done during his first term. republican governor romney has said he's done more in the past. . >>> we're looking at some of the key issues that could decide the presidential election, one of the issues, what to do about the estimated 10 million illegal immigrants living in this country. we've worked hard to keep it. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help people and businesses who were affected, and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open for everyone to enjoy -- and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. we've shared what we've learned with governments and across the industry so we can all produce energy more safely. i want you to know, there's another commitment bp takes just as seriously: our commitment to america
governor romney says no to any further regulation of gun shows. >> there's no particular change in law whothat's going to keep people who are going to do harm to do harm. >> we should do anything and everything to keep criminals from purchasing weapons. >> reporter: so obama says he wants tougher gun laws, little was done during his first term. republican governor romney has said he's done more in the past. . >>> we're looking at some of the key issues that could...
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governor romney was engaged. henergetic. he was, as savannah said, in command of the facts, personalable. for some reason the president was clearly off his game, looked aknow ed to be there, kept looking at his notes. he didn't look at the camera. he failed debate 101, what we tell fledgling candidates, always look at camera, particularly when delivering your closing. he was delivering his closing to jim lehrer, not the american people. it was a stunning but i think the key now for the obama campaign is not to panic. remember, walter mondale beat reagan in the first debate, went from 18 points down to 4 or 5 down, and wound up losing 49 states. don't panic. stay on message. put surrogates out there to rebut the things that he talked about in your opening. but don't put david axelrod and david plouffe out. >> he's a little too late on that one. >> i'm saying from now. they're very good guys, they're smart, but they're in the campaign. put ow elected officials, put out deval patrick. put out jennifer granholm and have them del
governor romney was engaged. henergetic. he was, as savannah said, in command of the facts, personalable. for some reason the president was clearly off his game, looked aknow ed to be there, kept looking at his notes. he didn't look at the camera. he failed debate 101, what we tell fledgling candidates, always look at camera, particularly when delivering your closing. he was delivering his closing to jim lehrer, not the american people. it was a stunning but i think the key now for the obama...
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yet a may gallup polls show vets favor governor romney. in fact, during wednesday's debate governor romney reiterated his commitment to strengthen the nation's military. >> we have a responsibility to protect the lives and liberties of our people, and that means a military second to none. i do not believe in cutting our military. i believe in maintaining the strength of america's military. >> so let's bring in beau biden, attorney general for the state of delaware. he is also a major in the delaware national guard having served a 12-pomonth deployment iraq. he's also the vice president's son. mitt romney has hammered president obama for the automatic military cuts that could take place as a result of congress failing to reach a debt deal. even the defense secretary said the cuts could be staef dating. does that hurt the president in the vet community? >> number one, congress must act and avoid sequestration op any of these defense cuts. number two, you know, governor romney seems to confuse the defense budget from the veterans budget. what
yet a may gallup polls show vets favor governor romney. in fact, during wednesday's debate governor romney reiterated his commitment to strengthen the nation's military. >> we have a responsibility to protect the lives and liberties of our people, and that means a military second to none. i do not believe in cutting our military. i believe in maintaining the strength of america's military. >> so let's bring in beau biden, attorney general for the state of delaware. he is also a...
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warning of romney's been there done that economics. >> the approach that governor romney is talking about is the same sales pitch that was made in 2001 and 2003. we ended up with the slowest job growth in 50 years. >> whether it was health care, jobs, or medicare, it was romney who stood out for his aggressive ste. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table, and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care. >> the president made his points in a slower, more laid back, often looking down, sometimes appearing disengaged. it's not that he didn't try to rip apart romney's economic plan. >> that kind of top-down economics where folks at the top are doing well, so the average person making $3 million is getting a $250,000 tax break while middle class families are burdened further. >> romney was determined to go toe to toe. >> well, but virtually everything he said about my tax plan is inaccurate. if the tax plan he described were a tax plan i was asked
warning of romney's been there done that economics. >> the approach that governor romney is talking about is the same sales pitch that was made in 2001 and 2003. we ended up with the slowest job growth in 50 years. >> whether it was health care, jobs, or medicare, it was romney who stood out for his aggressive ste. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen...
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when governor romney was tested, he got kind of testy. and i thought that the president maintained his cool throughout and did well. >> what about the president's cool and the president's dignified reserve as you put it, do you think he's going to have to change that style going forward in these debates? >> i don't believe so. i think that -- >> if you could coach him on the next debate, if you could do ten minutes of coaching on the next debate, based on what you saw tonight, what would you tell him to do differently? >> oh, i don't know. i think that the president has to keep doing what he's doing. i think he has to be truthful about why he's made the choices for us that he has made. i think he has to keep talking about the fact that we're moving forward and not back. 30 months in a row of positive job growth. and i think he has to continue to press governor romney on the fact that he's not putting forth any of the specifics about how he would do these various things he's promised. he went down the list of the things he would repeal. he
when governor romney was tested, he got kind of testy. and i thought that the president maintained his cool throughout and did well. >> what about the president's cool and the president's dignified reserve as you put it, do you think he's going to have to change that style going forward in these debates? >> i don't believe so. i think that -- >> if you could coach him on the next debate, if you could do ten minutes of coaching on the next debate, based on what you saw tonight,...
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governor romney will try to put him off-balance. he has to relax, he has to show a little sense of humor, show why he's likable. that's all nonverbal cues. >> maggie, doesn't mitt romney also, in this debate -- he needs to have a moment that dominates news coverage in the days coming out? because that's how most people are going to get their information from this debate. >> yes, absolutely. to governor dean's point, i agree there's a concern for the president in not looking like mitt romney is getting to him. >> let's show some of that. we have a little montage of the best and worst moments of each candidate in their debates. >> i tell you what, 10,000 bucks. $10,000 bet? >> i'm not in the betting business. >> he's very likable. i agree with that. i don't think i'm that bad. >> you're likable enough, hillary. >> thank you. >> the idea that i'm anti-immigrant is repulsive. >> the war started you said it that it was going to be quick and easy. you said we knew where the weapons of mass destruction were. you were wrong. >> each candida
governor romney will try to put him off-balance. he has to relax, he has to show a little sense of humor, show why he's likable. that's all nonverbal cues. >> maggie, doesn't mitt romney also, in this debate -- he needs to have a moment that dominates news coverage in the days coming out? because that's how most people are going to get their information from this debate. >> yes, absolutely. to governor dean's point, i agree there's a concern for the president in not looking like...
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duval patrick followed romney as governor. he's co-chairman of the obama campaign and one of the president's staunchest defenders. what did he make of president obama's debate performance? he joins me now. governor, the general consensus seems to be your man took one hell of a shellacking. >> i think the president had a good debate but i think romney had a better one, to tell you the truth, especially on style points. we know governor romney from our time here in massachusetts, his time here in massachusetts. we know him to be a very effective salesman and he was selling. the problem is what he was selling won't actually do what he says it will do. it will not grow opportunity from the middle out. >> tell me this, though. i remember when we spoke at the dnc convention, you said, you made a big speech, we talked about it afterwards, time for the party to show some backbone. by party, obviously including the president. last night he didn't seem to have any backbone whatsoever. what was the whole strategy of just staring down at
duval patrick followed romney as governor. he's co-chairman of the obama campaign and one of the president's staunchest defenders. what did he make of president obama's debate performance? he joins me now. governor, the general consensus seems to be your man took one hell of a shellacking. >> i think the president had a good debate but i think romney had a better one, to tell you the truth, especially on style points. we know governor romney from our time here in massachusetts, his time...
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because governor romney did a good thing. working with democrats in the state to set up what is essentially the identical model and as a consequence, people are covered there. it hasn't destroyed jobs. and as a consequence, we now have a system in which we have the opportunity to start bringing down costs, as opposed to just leaving millions of people out in the cold. >> your five seconds went away a long time ago. governor, tell the president directly why you think what he just said is wrong about obama care. >> well, i did with my first statement but i'll go on. >> you did. please elaborate. >> i'll elaborate. exactly right. first of all, i like the way we did it in massachusetts. i like the fact that in my state we had republicans and democrats come together and work together. what you did instead was to push through a plan without a single republican vote. as a matter of fact, when massachusetts did something quite extraordinary, elected a republican senator to stop obama care, you pushed it through anyway. the so entirel
because governor romney did a good thing. working with democrats in the state to set up what is essentially the identical model and as a consequence, people are covered there. it hasn't destroyed jobs. and as a consequence, we now have a system in which we have the opportunity to start bringing down costs, as opposed to just leaving millions of people out in the cold. >> your five seconds went away a long time ago. governor, tell the president directly why you think what he just said is...
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governor romney said he wouldn't. governor romney said it was tragic that we entered the iraq war. one of the reasons that al qaeda strengthened during the last decade is our focus is too much in iraq. so we're happy to have this debate and will have it obviously. >> was this an intelligence failure? >> no, this was an event, a complex event. we're only talking a matter of weeks here. and so as information was arrived at, as determinations were made, that was shared with the american people and i think again the focus needs to be how do we make sure that our facilities and our ambassadors and our personnel is secure going forward and that's what the focus is on. >> the chairman of the homeland security committee has called for susan rice to resign, does the president have confidence in susan rice? >> absolutely. >> what about the broader point here, security is so bad in benghazi, that the fbi can't even go in and investigate. what about the fact that there are talk of military options to find ambassador steven's killers? what is america doing to work its will to change the traject
governor romney said he wouldn't. governor romney said it was tragic that we entered the iraq war. one of the reasons that al qaeda strengthened during the last decade is our focus is too much in iraq. so we're happy to have this debate and will have it obviously. >> was this an intelligence failure? >> no, this was an event, a complex event. we're only talking a matter of weeks here. and so as information was arrived at, as determinations were made, that was shared with the...
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the governor romney of 2001, the governor romney governor of massachusetts, would have been a strong contender in the philadelphia suburbs and the cleveland suburbs. the governor romney who ttacked far to the right, like the blunt amendment and say he was for it that romney is going to get swamped in the philadelphia suburbs and the cleveland suburbs. >> governor rendell, thank you so much for having you on. >> thank you. thank you. >>> up next, we will dig deeper into the nbc news poll and why it says tonight's debate is so crucial for governor romney. and the answer may not be what you're thinking right now. >>> but first, there's a lot going on today. here are some things we just thought you should know. education secretary arne duncan is calling for printed textbooks to become obsolete within the next few years. wow. duncan says the u.s. is fall willing behind other nations that are already traps sigging from print to digital school books. >>> and who's going tonight next big cheese? chee-tos hired an artist to make portraits of president obama, governor romney made entirely of c
the governor romney of 2001, the governor romney governor of massachusetts, would have been a strong contender in the philadelphia suburbs and the cleveland suburbs. the governor romney who ttacked far to the right, like the blunt amendment and say he was for it that romney is going to get swamped in the philadelphia suburbs and the cleveland suburbs. >> governor rendell, thank you so much for having you on. >> thank you. thank you. >>> up next, we will dig deeper into the...
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who has the most to lose, president obama or governor romney? >> certainly governor romney. the president ea's ahead. he's a good debater. this whole setting expectations by his team is very silly. he hasn't debated in a campaign recently, he's debated plenty. he knows hows to keep his cool on a national stage. the governor needs to turn the expectations around, and that's the problem he's having right now. he's got a lot of people saying, the debate's really going to change everything for him. it's his last chance. donors are going to go away if he doesn't do well. he's going to lose the support of establishment republicans who will start giving their money to senate candidates instead. it's a tremendous amount of pressure. so he's really got the expectations game that he's got to fulfill, and we'll see how he does. >> anne, this praise of mitt romney about an anecdote of being abandoned on a boat his hi grandkids. take a look and take a listen. >> i said, who's going to grab the rope? and i looked up, and there was mitt romney. so he pull ed me in, tied up th boat for me,
who has the most to lose, president obama or governor romney? >> certainly governor romney. the president ea's ahead. he's a good debater. this whole setting expectations by his team is very silly. he hasn't debated in a campaign recently, he's debated plenty. he knows hows to keep his cool on a national stage. the governor needs to turn the expectations around, and that's the problem he's having right now. he's got a lot of people saying, the debate's really going to change everything...
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their minds about governor romney? >> i think with these debates mostly, the people are already set in who they're going to vote for. there are people that are there, just trying to solidify the reason they picked their candidate. there are aalways those people on the fence. when you have people that are possibly going one way or the other, you take a debate like last night and you may turn the people that are on the fence. >> were people surprised that president obama didn't seem to attack mr. romney at all, at least during the first half of the dough bait? he just sort of listened and then gave his talking points. >> yes. a lot of people mentioned this were surprised the president didn't bring up governor romney's offshore accounts, the 47% remark. they were really surprised he didn't come back with a lot of those comments. >> so, how much harm do you think the president's performance has done as far as the polls go? and can he recover? >> i think he can recover. what he needs to do is sit back, take a look at what o
their minds about governor romney? >> i think with these debates mostly, the people are already set in who they're going to vote for. there are people that are there, just trying to solidify the reason they picked their candidate. there are aalways those people on the fence. when you have people that are possibly going one way or the other, you take a debate like last night and you may turn the people that are on the fence. >> were people surprised that president obama didn't seem...
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>> and on the campaign trail -- >> governor romney made the dance around his positions but if you want to be president, you owe the american people the truth. >> tonight, stephanie cutter of the obama campaign on last night's performance and the way forward. sam stein, e.j. dionne on romney's style versus the president's substance. >> i like pbs. i love big bird. >> david k. johnston on romney's huge tax lie. james hoff of the teamsters on romney's 108 on his feelings for the american middle class. and ohio state senator nina turner on what last night's debate means for the buckeye state. good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. if it were just only a game, right? the presidential debate last night was ugly. it was an ugly night because the truth left the building. it took a beating. give mitt romney credit, though. he was an all-american liar last night. and the president seemed to leave his best material, his best game at home. for millions of americans, it was extremely hard to watch mitt romney lie the way he did and get away with it. >> first of all, i don't h
>> and on the campaign trail -- >> governor romney made the dance around his positions but if you want to be president, you owe the american people the truth. >> tonight, stephanie cutter of the obama campaign on last night's performance and the way forward. sam stein, e.j. dionne on romney's style versus the president's substance. >> i like pbs. i love big bird. >> david k. johnston on romney's huge tax lie. james hoff of the teamsters on romney's 108 on his...
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both president obama and governor romney should warn their campaigns to stop the slander. there are enough legitimate issues to be debated. the truth is the president could not defend his economic record on wednesday night. and that's why governor romney won the debate. lying had nothing to do with it that's the memo. now for the top story tonight. reaction, joining us from boston, democratic consultant marianne marsh and from washington kirsten powers. surprised the democratic party is getting so hysterical, kristen, are you. >> i wouldn't call it hysterical but i'm shocked to say that i agree with your talking points for once. i think that it is not right for the democratic party to go out calling him a liar. it's one thick for a talk show host to say things like that. but when a campaign or an official party apparatus starts using the word liar, i think a lot of people are going to feel that they're being kind of nasty. >> bill: also, sore losers, marianne. it just comes across at petulant, fifth grade stuff. i lost, i got my butt kicked so now i'm going to call the oth
both president obama and governor romney should warn their campaigns to stop the slander. there are enough legitimate issues to be debated. the truth is the president could not defend his economic record on wednesday night. and that's why governor romney won the debate. lying had nothing to do with it that's the memo. now for the top story tonight. reaction, joining us from boston, democratic consultant marianne marsh and from washington kirsten powers. surprised the democratic party is getting...
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he and governor romney know the election's all about the economy and both men were trading jabs today in the battleground state of virginia. >> today's news certainly is not an excuse to try to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> when i'm president of the united states, that unemployment rate is going to come down not because people are giving up and dropping out of the work force, but because we're creating more jobs. i will create jobs and get america working again. >> let's get right to tonight's big story. with senator john mccain, the arizona senator and former presidential candidate joining me now. welcome to you, senator. >> thank you, piers. >> we are going to come to the debate in a moment. you've been one of the only people who debated both barack obama and mitt romney so you're in a unique place to tell me what you made of the new style romney and indeed, obama. before we get there, though, today's big news on the jobs front. whichever way you spin this from the republican side, this
he and governor romney know the election's all about the economy and both men were trading jabs today in the battleground state of virginia. >> today's news certainly is not an excuse to try to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> when i'm president of the united states, that unemployment rate is going to come down not because people are giving up and dropping out of the work force, but because...
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governor romney came to the back of the plane yesterday. he told the reporters, look, they've got to convince people that their big ideas are the right big ideas. and that's not something you can do at a rally. no matter how big. they need the stage, they need to be up there, elevated, standing next to president obama to convince people to change their minds and give governor romney a second look. >> you mentioned the plane yesterday. i understand that the governor was also passing around a whole bunch of beef jerky. did you get some of the jerky, sir? did you get any of the beef jerky? >> i did get the beef jerky. if i've learned one thing, it's never pass up the opportunity to get something to eat. >> garrett hake, traveling with the romney campaign. as always, i appreciate your time. >> my pleasure. >>> an unemployment rate above 8%. more than half the country saying that they're worse off today than they were four years ago, in a new cnbc poll, and a national deficit that will pass the $1 trillion mark tomorrow for the fiscal year for t
governor romney came to the back of the plane yesterday. he told the reporters, look, they've got to convince people that their big ideas are the right big ideas. and that's not something you can do at a rally. no matter how big. they need the stage, they need to be up there, elevated, standing next to president obama to convince people to change their minds and give governor romney a second look. >> you mentioned the plane yesterday. i understand that the governor was also passing around...
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the question is how to get them going again. >> governor romney defended his tax plan repeatedly. the romney proposal would give breaks to the wealthy while putting a burden on the middle class. >> i know you and your running mate keep saying that. it's popular, but it's not the case. i have five boys. i'm used to people saying something that's not always true but keep on repeating it hoping i'll believe it. that is not the case. i will not reduce the taxes paid by high income americans. number three, i will not, under any circumstances raise taxes on middle income families. >> for 18 months, he's been running on this tax plan. now, five weeks before the election, he's saying his idea is never mind. the fact is that if you are lowering the rates the way you describe, governor, then it is not possible to come up with enough deductions and loophole that is only affect high income individuals to avoid either raising the deficit or burdening the middle class. it's math. it's arithmetic. >> on the subject of entitlements, they clashed on the health care program for seniors which is pop
the question is how to get them going again. >> governor romney defended his tax plan repeatedly. the romney proposal would give breaks to the wealthy while putting a burden on the middle class. >> i know you and your running mate keep saying that. it's popular, but it's not the case. i have five boys. i'm used to people saying something that's not always true but keep on repeating it hoping i'll believe it. that is not the case. i will not reduce the taxes paid by high income...
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it didn't look like he wanted to engage governor romney. and the fact of the matter is, you know, you can't beat the champ on points. mitt romney hit a knockout last night. >> yes, he did. new jersey governor chris christie, you are right. you were right about this one. >> i have confidence in this guy. i mean, you know, i've been with him since last october. and like i said, this was no crystal ball moment. i watched him over the last year and a quarter. and every time his back has been against the wall, really against the wall, and it was last night, the guy has come out with a great debate performance. and then you heard mike this morning saying that the same kind of thing happened up in massachusetts. look at the guy's history. this guy hasn't been as successful as he's been in everything in his life by not being competitive and being a winner. and that's what he's done. >> all right, governor. >> chris, it's great to talk to you. come on the show sometime. >> you bet i will. >> see you soon. >> i want to hear from meacham. >> that is,
it didn't look like he wanted to engage governor romney. and the fact of the matter is, you know, you can't beat the champ on points. mitt romney hit a knockout last night. >> yes, he did. new jersey governor chris christie, you are right. you were right about this one. >> i have confidence in this guy. i mean, you know, i've been with him since last october. and like i said, this was no crystal ball moment. i watched him over the last year and a quarter. and every time his back has...
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governor romney needs to win it. had the president had a decisive debate performance last night, a lot of democrats are thinking he could have put ohio away because he was up five, six, maybe seven points there. that's not the case today, wolf. the president could have maybe put away a couple battleground state, he didn't do. the chance for mitt romney, can he capitalize? and how will the president try to recover? >> he certainly missed a golden opportunity i thought to solidify some of the standing in some of those key battleground states and he avoided some of the stuff he's saying today on the campaign trail he avoided saying last night. i think a lot of his own supporters are suggesting he missed that golden opportunity. >> the form of vice president and al gore insists the altitude had something to do with it. but the president flew in to colorado too late to adapt to the mile high city. look, his own campaign team was trying to say the president didn't want to be too combative but he wasn't feisty enough. the q
governor romney needs to win it. had the president had a decisive debate performance last night, a lot of democrats are thinking he could have put ohio away because he was up five, six, maybe seven points there. that's not the case today, wolf. the president could have maybe put away a couple battleground state, he didn't do. the chance for mitt romney, can he capitalize? and how will the president try to recover? >> he certainly missed a golden opportunity i thought to solidify some of...
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what is it that governor romney did first? and president obama didn't do in the content -- in the context of trying to have people believe in you, accept what you are saying, and feel your passion? >> i think governor romney did something which i think is very critical and we haven't touched upon yes yet. he brought passion to his debate and passion is important when you are looking to imfrom es 40, 50 million people. the president of the united states, who i always thought was one of the most brilliant communicate tors of at least my generation .. left his a game in the locker room and i think this sort of reminded me of the really smart guy who shows up for the big final exam only to, decide i didn't study enough and suddenly i am in the middle of a fight i didn't expect and sort of rambling here and i am not making my point, and the more you do that, the deeper you get, the more difficult it is to extricate yourself and as a trialer i watch people and i watch their body language and i try to understand by looking at them wh
what is it that governor romney did first? and president obama didn't do in the content -- in the context of trying to have people believe in you, accept what you are saying, and feel your passion? >> i think governor romney did something which i think is very critical and we haven't touched upon yes yet. he brought passion to his debate and passion is important when you are looking to imfrom es 40, 50 million people. the president of the united states, who i always thought was one of the...
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those are positions we've not heard from governor romney before. he said a lot of specific things in this debate. he's been criticized for not having specifics. some of the specifics were easily challengeable by the president. the president didn't challenge him on the specifics in any way. and again, i think that's, speaks to him playing it very safe. that four corners offensive, that practice prevent defense and mike is right in the sense governor romney got done what he needed to get done is get voters to give him another look. >> rose: people say the first 15 minutes is important. >> 15 minutes in, i was immediately taken back to the first kerry-bush debate. if you remember bush came out and he looked tired. he was a little bit pension lent and stumbled with his answers and kerry was there with the podium. the moment finally arrived, prepared himself and his momentum and confidence built throughout his entire debate and i saw the exact same thing tonight. president came out and looked like he under estimated his opponent a bit, was tired. and ro
those are positions we've not heard from governor romney before. he said a lot of specific things in this debate. he's been criticized for not having specifics. some of the specifics were easily challengeable by the president. the president didn't challenge him on the specifics in any way. and again, i think that's, speaks to him playing it very safe. that four corners offensive, that practice prevent defense and mike is right in the sense governor romney got done what he needed to get done is...